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David Lynn

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The pair of examples from a UK seller late last year on ebay reached £180 and £210 (plus £8 postage) and although he was a canny lad by putting a high reserve on it (might have been £150??), their final prices were determined by eager bidders. At least one and probably both came from the paint-flawed trio with 2100s certificate numbers which surfaced in Cheshire in early 2016 from what I've been told was a clearance of old Vanguards stock by a wholesaler (see earlier comments on this thread, also Diecast Collector article, August 2017). 

 

Which triggers the possibly unanswerable question - if a fully packaged one ever popped up with perfect paint, how much could that reach??

David Lynn

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I bought one of the ebay examples in the ongoing batch of 7 seen so far, and it's now arrived. Identical to my two others as described in previous comments, including the paint faults, although in this case they are the least obvious of the trio, with just orange-peel pimpling without drips or streaking. However this affects the widest area of body surfacing, with roof, boot, bonnet and driver's side all afflicted. The only surprise is a certificate number in the 0380s, which is a new area of the sequence alongside the previously noted 1110s and the 2100s apparent from at least 2 of this current batch.

 

While I don't put much emphasis on the certificate numbers being solidly reliable, three different number clusters are intriguing for the possibility that the full intended run of 2960 may have been produced before the plug was pulled, and the consequent questions of what might have happened to them. How do you scrap a couple of thousand or more fully packaged models - what actually happens? Do workers dissemble everything so that boxes, cases, and maybe components can be reused? Or does the whole caboodle just get thrown into a furnace or incinerator, or maybe bulldozed into a landfill site? 

David Lynn

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Update - some amended info. The original  early 1970s Rolls-Royce Corniche with Take-Off Wheels was #273. It then got Whizzwheels instead and became #280. Then in the 1980s it was rehashed with yet another design of wheels to become #279 in loads of different colours, including cream/white. This was then repackaged with newly added plaque badge around 1992 as Corgi Classics #94030 as described above.

 

So as far as I can tell yours could be a cream 279 or a 94030. But the extra possibility does not seem to affect its likely value (or lack of value). Cream 279s also seem as cheap as chips, even if mint and boxed.

David Lynn

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Probably not very much, if it's the version I'm thinking of - less than £10. The Corgi Rolls-Royce Corniche started in the 1970s as #279 with Take-Off Wheels and was a lovely model for its time, but then got so many revamps/re-issues as it was milked to death.

 

I'm guessing that your all-white livery was the later (1992 or thereabouts) Corgi Classics #94030 with ordinary wheels, came in a display box with a replica RR plaque badge in choice of various colours. These seem to go for £5-£10 on ebay when boxed and complete, so deduct 50% for a loose model, even if mint.

 

I don't remember an earlier all-white version, but these RRs are not one of my areas of knowledge so it is possible you may have something older and possibly more interesting. But you'd need to establish why it's not a #94030 to make your case - any distinguishing features or any back story passed down with the inheritance which might highlight something different. If you google "Corgi Classics #94030" (which is basically what I did) and then scrutinise the pictures against your model, you might find some answers in whichever direction.

 

David Lynn

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I guess this new example comes from a batch of 7 (so far)  listed consecutively by a Chinese ebay seller over the last couple of weeks - search on "Corgi Drive Time Ford Sierra Sapphire GLS" to find his latest example which still has 4 days to run. He seems to be using the same certificate photo - #2122 - with every listing.

 

So in addition to the previous UK discoveries with certificate numbers in the low 1100s, there seeems to be a new nest in China with low 2100s. And it resolves something I'd never been sure about - the certificates are packaged in at the source factory, not added on arrival in UK.

 

David Lynn

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Does anybody from Corgi care about the Club?? Does anybody from the Club even read these threads??

 

There is never any response to all the frustrations expressed by a previously loyal and enthusiastic membership. Don't we deserve even a minimal acknowledgement for the stream of heartfelt feedback we have provided?? This continued silence stokes up the frustration, further reducing whatever enthusiasm might still remain among contributors.

 

So please Corgi, engage with what's being written in this and the other Club threads and give us some sort of response and sign that someone is taking these issues seriously. Maybe even a survey to find out what the increasing number of ex-members might want from the Club in order to re-join??

David Lynn

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It usually means there is a range of models designed to fit within a shared size of box as a key priority, instead of the range being designed to a consistently accurate scale. Nowadays it is used more for budget model ranges where the full size originals vary considerably in dimensions, for example planes, and tends to give several different toy-like models in roughly the same size - so a WW2 fighter ends up as big as an airliner.

 

Back in the day before models became targetted on collectors and their demand for specific and consistent accuracy, lots of toy firms did this all the time with Matchbox being a good example - their petrol takers for instance ended up the same length as a small car like the Morris Minor, with no consideration of defined scale, simply the need to "fit the Box".

 

So for the second part of your question, about the scale of your particular item, firstly it depends on which exact item it is, and secondly its individual scale is probably not stated as a deliberate marketing decision. If you tell us which model you're concerned with, there is a chance someone might know or be able to give a reasonable guess. (But if it's a plane, don't ask me because they're not my thing at all).

David Lynn

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Mine is also the purple Stag (certificate number in the 130s), found unexpectedly in a giftshop in a Perthshire village - owner stocks Vanguards and Oxford new releases as a sideline to his main business of tourist souvenirs - he only orders one of each, so there's no box of other examples in the back. Which is interesting as 2 specialised model shops in Scottish Central Belt received none of these purple Stags at all against their orders.

 

A couple of odd quirks - when originally announced in Dec 2015 list for March 2016 launch, the Stag was shown with UEC 603M plates in the advance picture, which seems to be a fake unused combination. It was almost immediately cancelled, with gossip at the time that Corgi did not have licencing permission to use the Triumph name, as a planned red TR250 (TR5 version) disappeared at the same time. This has obviously now been resolved, enabling as well the Monmouthshire Police Herald 1200 panda car.

 

Its Second Coming now has MVF 604M plates, which seems a genuine match from Corgi's blurb about the particular example and some traceable plate info, although many plate sites are blank. Also it arrived unexpectedly a couple of months early without any particular fanfare - it was due (I think) in May. Early Vanguards arrivals are rarer than unicorns, so its premature appearance may have caught most folk by surprise. The Herald was also a month or two ahead of its predicted release date, so there's a few mice loose in the machinery.

David Lynn

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@David Lynn

On that new Diecast Diaries page there is a photo of a bare metal Ford casting with the caption

"The cast Escort Mk2 RS Mexico awaits some special painting attention"

 It will indeed need a lot of special attention, particularly to prevent it looking like a Mk1 Capri .....

Just in case anyone reads that now and wonders what I may have been drinking, the picture in question has now been quietly replaced with the correct one. Job done..

David Lynn

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On that new Diecast Diaries page there is a photo of a bare metal Ford casting with the caption

 

"The cast Escort Mk2 RS Mexico awaits some special painting attention"

 

It will indeed need a lot of special attention, particularly to prevent it looking like a Mk1 Capri .....

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